Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Answering a Question From Pojo

Because posting on there would be too uncool o3o

And here's the question!

Well, let's show off some math.

I'll be using my example field I used in my article about this, so note the names. My examples cover a R>V>R attack pattern.  I will also presume the opponent guards at least 1 attack from each example, due to me not believing in either player's damage being able to take that many hits by the point of a game developed fields show up. Any approximations made with triggers assumes that 1/3 of your deck is triggers, as it just about should.
Example 1:We assume you and your opponent don't pull triggers.

Situation A

If you attack with Nehalem first, the opponent will obviously choose to guard it, for only being able to expend 10K. Your Vanguard attacks and you don't pull a trigger. Finally, Dual-Axe attacks.

Situation B

You attack with your Dual-Axe first. The opponent will probably not guard it with the fact it forces 15K out. Your Vanguard attacks and doesn't pull a trigger. Finally, Nehalem attacks, and will be guarded for 10K, most likely.

To break it down, this situation has absolutely no differences either way. This also is the same with both players pulling 1 trigger, assuming the opponent pulled their trigger on their first damage. Moving on.
Example 2:We assume you pull at least 1 trigger and the opponent doesn't

Situation A

Attack with Nehalem force and get it guarded. Now your Vanguard attacks and pulls a trigger/2 triggers. Finally, Dual-Axe swings in at about 26K-31K power, most likely being allowed through.

Situation B

You attack with Dual-Axe first, and the opponent chooses not to guard it. Your Vanguard attacks and drive checks a Trigger or 2, and it's placed on Nehalem. Finally, Nehalem attacks for 21-26K power. At that point, the opponent probably isn't in a position to take that damage, and will have to guard with 15 or 20K.

Alrighty. Situation A will be a for sure 10K to guard Nehalem and -1 card, along with at least 1 damage. Situation B will be a for sure at least 15K guard spent, either if they had chosen to guard your Dual-Axe first or your Nehalem last, and be 2 cards used up and at least 1 damage.

Also, if you pull a Critical, it creates a new situation. If you pulled a critical in situation A, the opponent will probably have to guard your Dual-Axe as well, turning into at least 3 cards spent to summon 30-35K of guard to block it all or use only 10K in total and have 2 damage for the turn. If a Critical is pulled in B, if the opponent let Dual-Axe through, they'd have to drop at least 2 cards to bring together 20-25K guard and have 1 damage from it, or not guard at all and take 3 damage. If they had guarded Dual-Axe beforehand, they would have dropped a grand total of 4 cards and 30-35K guard on your RearGuards or only guard for 15K and take 2 damage.

Situation A vs Situation B
                          1 10K shield used and 1 damage vs 2 cards in at least 15K shield used and 1 damage
Atleast 3 cards in 30-35K shield vs 4 cards in 30-35K shield          .
                               1 10K shield and 2 damage vs at least 2 cards in 20-25K shield and 1 damage 
                 OR 3 damage 
                                          OR 15K shield and 2 damage

To put it simply, B every time.
Example 3: We assume the opponent pulls a damage trigger (first damage) and you pull no trigger

Situation A

Attack with Nehalem, and get guarded. Vanguard attacks and you pull no trigger. Finally, Dual-Axe attacks.

Situation B
Dual-Axe attacks and damages into a trigger. Vanguard attacks and you pull no trigger. Finally, Nehalem attacks a rearguard.

Situation C

Dual-Axe attacks and gets guarded. Vanguard attacks and doesn't pull a trigger. Finally, Nehalem attacks.

Situation A will always force the initial 1 10K shield out. If they guard the Vanguard, Dual-Axe will probably get through no problem. If they hadn't, Dual-Axe could be guarded at for 10K, and is the more likely thing. Situation B however, has issues. While you get your basically guaranteed 1 damage, your Vanguard now needs 5K less for a 2 trigger pass, the major problem. Finally, Nehalem aborts attacking the Vanguard and goes after a rearguard. With the opponent powered up and Nehalem not, it will only force out 5K guard. What has 5K guard? The opponent's grade 2 intercepts. Atleast there, if the opponent thinks they are important, you have the possibility of either killing a beater or still be able to force 10K guard. You can also hit Sagremore and Gigantech Destroyer Clones, as a plus, from that. Finally, situation C will be 2 cards used up to guard for 15K. If the Vanguard is guarded, Nehalem will hit the Vanguard. If the Vanguard got through, Nehalem will op for a rearguard.

In this instance, attacking with Dual-Axe first will fall short, if only in a sense not by far. Also, this example has the the smallest chance of happening due to not only having the opponent get a damage trigger on their first damage, but to not pull any triggers.

All in all, attacking with your power column (Dual-Axe) has great output and few drawbacks. Hope this helped.


  1. You realize you basically just re-posted an article right?

    1. And the fact that no one complains about it anymore shows it worked :D

      T.T I hate pojo.